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Just wondering because it has been said that the whole swine flu thing is just a media hype to distract us all from taxes, global warming and all the other problems our little world seems to have these days. I know people have died and that's bad but is it as serious as the media are claiming or are we just panicking over something fairly mild?

29 comments:

mack.mer said...

It does raise serious questions about where this brand new, never before seen virus came from, especially since it cannot be contracted from eating pork products, and has never before been seen in pigs, and contains traits from the bird flu and which so far only seems to respond to Tamiflu.
According to the Associated Press at least one financial analyst estimates up to $388 million worth of Tamiflu sales in the near future. That's without a pandemic outbreak.
More than half a dozen pharmaceutical companies, including Gilead Sciences Inc., Roche, GlaxoSmithKline and other companies with a stake in flu treatments and detection, have seen a rise in their shares in a matter of days, and will likely see revenue boosts if the swine flu outbreak continues to spread.
In February 2009, American pharmaceutical company Baxter was under investigation for distributing the deadly avian flu virus to 18 different countries as part of a seasonal flu vaccine shipment. Czech reporters were probing to see if it may have been part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic; as such a "mistake" would be virtually impossible under the security protocols of that virus.
The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine, including a human H5N1 vaccine (for which a licence is expected shortly) at a facility in the Czech Republic. People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.
While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called “reassortment”, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created in the lab.
Reassortment is the mixing of the genetic material of two similar viruses that are infecting the same cell. In particular, reassortment occurs among influenza viruses, whose genomes consist of eight distinct segments of RNA. These segments act like mini-chromosomes, and each time a flu virus is assembled, it requires one copy of each segment.
The H5N1 virus on its own is not very airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly, biological weapon. If this batch of live bird flu and seasonal flu viruses had reached the public, it could have resulted in terrible consequences. Some scientists say the most recent global outbreak (the 1977 Russian flu) was started by a virus created and leaked from a laboratory.
A top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, has concluded that the current swine flu virus possesses certain transmission "vectors" that suggest the new strain has been genetically-manufactured. The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents.
Another example of the less sterling integrity of Big Pharma is the case of Bayer, who sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, even though they knew it was tainted with the AIDS virus.

solboy said...

It's a set up maufactured and put into the system to distract the public, as our man suggests, and for pharmacuetical companies to make some quick cash . The Mexican government is altready discounting the death toll of 175 to little over a hunderd, which as they have also admitted, the normal amount for seasonal flu outbreaks; The old and weak get flu, then pneumonia, then die. This is normal every year. This has all been hyped out of proportion to scare people, and to sell "remedies". Drug companies make big bucks from these outbreaks, so for them, with the global economy in such a bad state, this "pandemic" has "come along" just at the right time.

Robert said...

NO it isn't my dad works for the NHS and he gets told things b4 the general public and they just told him 2day that the swine flu is estimated to kill 100's of 1000's in the UK alone, advise is when u sneeze or cough do it into a tissue then throw that 1 away and if u dont have a tissue do it into ur arm and not ur hands so ur less likely 2 spread it, also the goverment dnt have enough masks, but the medicen will help, swine is most likely 2 affect the old people the most, and but if the virus evolves then the medicen might not even work , but that unlikey 2 happen

smokinin said...

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2581
"The predicted, or perhaps I should say, “promised” pandemic may very well be upon us. This is, as sure as God made little green apples, a totally man-made event, with a totally man-made pathogen (disease-causing agent). The WHO, US Government and MMD (media of mass deception) have been ramping up, ramping up, ramping up. But there is no honest virologist in the world who can look you in the eye and say that this virus had any chance whatsoever of having self-assembled genes from Eurasian, North American and other Swine Flu, Avian Flu (already weaponized with the genes of the 1918 Pandemic Virus?) and human viruses, sprung, like Venus from the brow of Zeus on April 14 in Mexico City and then, suddenly it has deadly potential around the globe… without a whole lot of help from its friends."

Mr. Bob E. Evil said...

Yeah I don't hear anything about Bush investigations, Jews from AIPAC who were caught spying for Israel, the Isaeli attack on Iran, the phony war on terror, the phony global warming scam.
The best thing to do is to turn off your tv. This swine flu scam is just an excuse to set up martial law and take everyone away to detention centers.
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Cool Hal said...

You are kidding right?
Or are you suggesting the Mexican government manufactured a flu like symptom that would mutate from pigs to humans and then infected pigs?
And they would do that because their economy was actually growing slightly and they wanted to destroy it - which is what is happening now as people cannot get to work.

Constant said...

I thought the same thing! Especially with the whole economic crisis, but i thought i was just being Paranoid. Granted some people are dying - i do think this is also being used as a distraction to the current economy and other problems, we are currently facing.

Anonymous said...

Just like the sheep who answered you are crazy. These are the same people who will take the meds and vaccines the gov pushes on them. But its ok for all of you think governments around the world has your best interest at heart you will be slaughtered. If you say no to this. Ask your self. Is fluoride,GMO, chem trails, meds, vaccines, fake sweaters, the list goes on. Are these things good for you or was it for big profits. When governments fear people you have liberty when people free government who have a police state. Eat organic Food, it will detox your mind.

thoth billiards inc. said...

Since there is no shot for it yet... No. However people that make Tamiflu pills and medical masks are doing quite well I expect. If the owners of these companies are freemasons I think you'd have your answer. If you get infected and your mexican, looks like you have about a 6% chance of dieing if you don't get treatment. Yeah, I'd say the media has overblown it. There is good money in mass hysteria (for the few not the many).

Jajo said...

I was reading that the US President needs to borrow 1.5 billion because of the swine flu, so that could be looked at cynically. I just don't trust any governments really. I don't think it is as bad as what it is hyped up to be so I am not going to get worried about it.

question said...

They're trying to make us panic. Just like they did with MRSA, SARS, ecoli, bird flu, mad cow disease, you name it. I honestly think there are more issues in the world that we need to be more concerned about. I think the economic crisis is causing ones to go crazy.

Sali said...

I think the SwineFlu is a conspiracy against the world especially right now when we are limping and strugelling to sort out the economic problem, we have to find a scary Flu to make us spend more and getting our problem more complicated.

jordy m said...

I think that the Swine Flu is overblown by the media because there isn't much to talk about. I mean, when was the last time you heard something about the war? But, the Swine Flu can become serious, and we must be cautious.

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Jamie k said...

WTF are you one about. The WHO have raised the level to five which means imminent global pandemic.

Robin B said...

No, read here:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/802195…

Hostel Takedown said...

so you say it will distract people from that stuff and i agree but why would the government kill its workforce that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do

NucleurP said...

I doubt it's a conspiracy, but I do feel it's been over hyped up...

Miranda PM said...

urm no. People are dying from swine flu, a toddler 23 months old died in texas, is it not a conspiracy PEOPLE ARE DYING.

Stuck In The Dark Sky said...

something that's fairly mild??? read the news stories about it again-mild it is not!

weneedch said...

Don't believe the hype!!

YoungShy said...

I bet Al Gore came up with it. Sales of "An Incorrect - I mean Inconvenient - Truth" must be slow.

Steve C said...

Pig flu......Thought that was impossible

hawk said...

Well my theory is that the cause of this outbreak is due to " The Mexican wave "

Amar said...

WTF?? Thats Stupid

Jane said...

I agree with you I believe it is man made.

Emily said...

"Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence". That's how I know it is not a conspiracy. Swine flu was developed by mexican people who were in constant contact with pigs. Just as it was common for some asians to sleep in the same place where they had their birds more than 10 years ago, in Mexico people are used to sleeping amongst pigs
The reason why avian flu didn't become a pandemic in Asia, is only because people there do have hygiene habits, and controlling the isolated cases was pretty much an easy task. In Mexico, that's a whole different story, as hygiene is the exception, not the norm. The average person in Mexico lives in a 100 sq ft area without access to clean drinking water or health services, let alone soap. An average Mexican will wash his hands only once every 3 days. By comparison, an average Asian will wash his hands 25 times per day.
The origins of this virus, however, didn't take place on an "average" mexican, but in a kid from Perot, Veracruz, where living conditions are much worse. Neighbours in the area had noticed a marked increase in the number of flies near "clean" water supplying sources since March. Authorities still haven't discarded the virus to be waterborne as well.
By looking at this, I guess it should be clear by now why swine flu is having a much higher transmission rate and casualties in Mexico than in any other country.
Even if the WHO says closing borders won't help, I would think of it as an adequate measure. These people are spreading their disease all over the world and the more casualties there are in Mexico, the more immigration there is into the US. ..hence more potential cases as well.
Unfortunately, that's the price we have to pay for globalization and immigration.

Tornado said...

A coworker who is the "El Yunque" said those who spread the new strain of swine influenza virus was people from “the Yunque”.
He says he did that because they wanted to create a health emergency in the Federal District in order to strike the head of government of the Distrito Federal (Marcelo Ebrard) and an inept that it should not be in office.
It was assumed that the virus, when a new strain would not be easy to heal, but the "specialist" said the YUNQUE in the virus strain was not deadly as were tested in pigs, rabbits and mice and they did not die.
On the YUNQUE are ordered complete silence of the case.
My coworker said he did not know if the Yunque is the vaccine against the new strain of the virus, and therefore the number involved in the case are very alarmed, he wants to leave the country.
I thought it necessary to comment because I feel that if the Yunque is to deliver the vaccine to health services and respond to the numerous deaths.
It is desirable that you copy this and communicate by email to your friends to know what happens.
It is terrible that a rare group cause much damage with impunity.
Greetings:
Oscar Nuñez Saldaña
Mexico D.F.
Un compañero de trabajo que es un panista del grupo “EL YUNQUE” dijo que los que esparcieron la cepa nueva del virus de la influenza porcina fue gente de EL YUNQUE.
Dice que hicieron eso porque querían crear una emergencia sanitaria en el Distrito Federal para poder tachar al jefe de gobierno del Distrito Federal (Marcelo Ebrard) como a un inepto que no debe estar en su cargo.
Se suponía que el virus; al ser una nueva cepa no sería fácil de curar, pero el “especialista” del YUNQUE en virus afirmo que la cepa no era mortal pues la estuvieron probando en cerdos; conejos y ratones y no morían.
Ahora que empezó a morir gente; en el YUNQUE se ordenó un silencio total del asunto.
Mi compañero de trabajo dice que no sabe si EL YUNQUE tiene la vacuna contra la nueva cepa del virus; por lo que el y varios implicados en el asunto están muy alarmados; él quiere irse del país.
Creí necesario comentarles esto porque creo que si EL YUNQUE tiene la vacuna debe entregarla a los servicios de salud y responder por las numerosas muertes.
Es conveniente que copies esto y lo comuniques por correo a tus conocidos para que se sepa lo que ocurre. Es terrible que un grupo raro pueda causar tanto daño con total impunidad.
Saludos:
Oscar Saldaña Núñez
México D.F.

The Stump said...

No, it's a fish.

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